In this effort, what did the president say when he called you?
RNC chairwoman Rona McDaniel collaborated with the committee on Jan. 6, just before Tuesday’s hearing, and during the dismissal on video, she told investigators that Trump and her lawyer, John Eastman, called her after the election and told Trump voters. Talked about the need to provide space.
“Originally, he turned down the call to Eastman, who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the RNC, which helps the campaign mobilize voters from these parties if any of the ongoing legal challenges, any Dates change outcomes, “said McDaniel.
The RNC, he added, was “helping” the campaign reach out to so-called alternative voters so that they could be mobilized.
But he did qualify, it was Trump’s campaign that “led and we were helping him in that role.”
However, not everyone wanted to participate in the GOP.
Committee Member and Rep. During the interrogation, led by Adam Schiff, Russell Bowers testified about how Trump and his attorney, Rudy Giuliani, targeted him to reverse Trump’s losses in Arizona. Biden won the fair and the square and never found any fraud.
During the hearing, Trump issued a statement accusing Bowers of being a “Republican in name only” and further claiming that Bowers told him the election was “rigged” and that he was the real winner. Schiff asked Bowers on the spot if that was true.
Under oath before Congress, Bowers replied: “Anywhere, any person, anytime anyone has said I said the election was ‘rigged’ which will not be true.”
When Schiff asked him directly if he had told Trump that the election was “rigged,” Bowers offered a brilliant and simple answer.
“No,” he said.
However, he recounted a call from Giuliani where Bowers asked the president’s lawyer to show him evidence of fraudulent voting.
Trump, Giuliani and many of the 45th President’s aides regularly buy conspiracy theories about “undocumented” Americans who vote in large numbers.
Bowers could hear Trump call Giuliani, “Give him what he needs.”
“I will,” said Giuliani.
But evidence of fraud never came. The Bowers kept demanding it, but Giuliani never, once, delivered.
The president’s attorney also admitted this during the call.
“We have a lot of theories, we don’t have the evidence,” Bowers recalled.
It was so unbelievable for Bowers that he was probably “gossiping” by Giuliani or he didn’t know what he was saying.
“Later, we laughed about it,” he testified.
When Giuliani asked him to hold an official meeting at the State Capitol Building to investigate allegations of voter fraud, Bowers reiterated that he did not believe fraud had taken place.
“I didn’t want to be used as a pawn,” Bowers recalled telling Giuliani.
When Giuliani introduced the Eastman theory of removing and replacing Biden voters, Bowers said he was shocked.
“It’s brand new to me and I’ve never heard of such a thing,” he said of the strategy.
Bowers was dissatisfied and was offered to attach Giuliani to an attorney who could analyze the laws surrounding voters.
“But,” said Bowers, “you are telling me to do something that will break my oath and I will not break my oath.”
During a separate call between Bowers and Eastman, the Arizona Republican cut to the chase and asked Eastman what he would do to her.
Eastman asked Arizona to hold a vote to certify voters “because they had the right to do so.”
If there was fraud, if there was evidence of anything credible, Bowers told the panel he would consider the request more seriously.
But there was no evidence.
Eastman told him: “Just do it and let the courts solve it.”
Bowers has so far told Trump directly that he would not do anything illegal.
A statement from Cassidy Hutchinson, a colleague of Mark Meadow’s, also highlighted a meeting between Giuliani and the White House Attorney’s Office.
Meadows, Hutchinson testified, made it clear that alternative selector Gambit was not legally viable. Hutchinson did not say whether Trump was notified of the special talks, but when the committee met last week to discuss Eastman’s role in the plot, he established that Eastman Done Tell Trump that it was not legally possible for Pence to act on January 6 to prevent or delay certification.
President’s men in Congress
Rap. Andy Biggs, an Arizona Republican, has already refused to cooperate with the committee following a subpoena issued to him in May.
But the Bowers were able to fill in some of the gaps left by the Biggs. He testified Tuesday that Biggs called him on the morning of January 6 and asked him to reverse the results of the 2020 election in his state.
The December 14 deadline for such challenges came and went. Trump’s allegations of widespread fraud in court were later dismissed by a judge, including some of Trump’s own appointments.
“He asked if I would sign a letter from my state, and / or I would support voter neutrality. I said I would not,” Bowers said.
The Biggs were far from Trump’s only ally in Congress, who was actively pushing for a January 6 ratification.
Text messages released by the committee on Tuesday now show that Sen. Ron Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican, reached out to an aide to then-Vice President Mike Pence.
“Johnson needs to hand over something to VPOTUS, please advise,” said a text from Johnson’s assistant Sean Riley.
Pence’s assistant, Chris Hudson, asked: “What is this?”
Riley told Hodgson that the senator personally “wanted to provide voters with alternative slates for MI and WI because the archivist had not received them.”
Hodgson immediately fired: “Don’t give him that.”
Pence, as his lawyer and chief of staff confirmed in his testimony last week, was already under intense pressure from the president.
On Tuesday, Johnson’s spokeswoman, Alexa Henning, said the MP had “no involvement in creating an alternate slate of selectors and had no prior knowledge that it was being handed over to our office.”
Henning said it was a “staff-to-staff exchange.”
Threats kept coming
Gabriel Sterling told the committee that in December 2020, a project manager of the Dominion voting system received “hate” and “lost” after receiving a hate message online. It was a GIF of a snare in which the name of the contractor was slowly being twisted.
He persuaded Sterling to hold a press conference where he asked Trump to do something to stop misinformation and inflammatory rhetoric. Trump responded by retweeting a link to Sterling’s press conference.
“The election is rigged,” Trump wrote. “Show signatures and envelopes. Expose massive voter fraud in Georgia What the Secretary of State and the BrianCampage are afraid of. They know what we’re looking for! ”
The push through the Trump campaign in Georgia was intense.
Schiff revealed Tuesday that Mark Meadows had called on Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger at least 18 times to arrange a meeting between the secretary and Trump.
Sterling’s personal information was docked. Both Bowers and Rafensperger experienced similar problems. Trump supporters appeared on one occasion at Bowers’ home, screaming outside, where his “critically ill” daughter was forced to listen inside.
“It was annoying, just annoying,” Bowers recalled.
A similar fate befell Fulton County, Georgia election worker Vandria Arshay “Shay” Moss. He and his mother, Ruby Freeman, were both targeted by the president and Giuliani.
Both Trump and Giuliani publicly clarified the conspiracy theory that Moss and Freeman tampered with the ballot at the State Farm Arena. Moss accused Giuliani of giving his mother a “USB drive” to vote for Biden. Giuliani said he left them as if they were bottles of cocaine.
Schiff asked Moss on Tuesday what a “USB drive” really was.
“A ginger mint,” said Moss.
Ruby Freeman told the committee that her entire life was ruined when Trump called her by name and accused her of cheating.
She could no longer wear her nickname, Lady Ruby’s shirt, for fear of retaliation.
“I wore this shirt on Election Day 2020. I haven’t worn it since, and I will never wear it again. I will no longer present myself by name, “Freeman said in a recorded video statement.
The next hearing is set for Thursday, June 23 at 3 p.m. The committee is expected to hear testimony from Justice Department officials about the former president’s attempt to take over the institution as it approaches January 6.
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