“Jürgen Klopp succeeded The rate in the European finals is 20% (P5 W1, L4), ” James Smith’s Notes. “Is there a manager who has a worse record and has played the same number of European finals?”
Yes, the short answer is yes – but the Liverpool manager is in good company with one win out of four Champions League winners. And remember, you have to reach so many finals in the first place even considered for this. Next to Dirk Maas: “Klopp is on par with Marcello Lippi during his time with Juventus in the 1990s and 2000s. Meanwhile, Arsène Wenger and Héctor Cúper have been left out of their three finals in a major Uefa club tournament. ”
Wenger is the king of the 0% club: the only coach to lose a final in all three traditional UEFA competitions: the Cup Winners’ Cup with Monaco (1992, lost by Werder Bremen) and Arsenal, the Champions League ( 2006,). lost in Barcelona) and Uefa Cup (2000, lost against Galatasaray). As for Cooper, he missed the Champions League finals back to back with Valencia in 2000 and 2001, against Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, respectively. The Argentine also failed in the 1999 Cup Winners’ Cup final with Real Mallorca, losing 2-1 to Lazio after beating Chelsea in the semi – finals.
Dirk can add eight more managers who lost the two big UEFA finals – with some common names, and some less familiar names:
Albert Batteaux (Reims, 1956 and 1959 European Cups)
Scot Symon (Rangers, 1961 and 1967 Cup Winners’ Cup)
Cestmir Vycpalek (Juventus, Fair Cup 1971 and CE 1973)
Georg Kessler (AZ Alkmaar, Corn Uefa 1981; Cologne, UC 1986)
Otto Baric (Rapid Vienna, CWC 1985; Salzburg, UC 1994)
Roy Hodgson (Idir, UC 1997; Fulham, Europa League 2010)
Jorge Jesus (Benfica, EL 2013 and 2014)
Massimiliano Allegri (Juventus, CL 2015 and 2017)
Never too late
“Who is the oldest player to sign for the first time at the club that they supported as a child?” Bevan McCabe tweeted.
“Steve Claridge came to Portsmouth at the age of 32,” noted Edward Reynolds. “He became a player-manager in 2000 at 34, so he could be one of the youngest managers to lead his hometown club.”
“I offer Chris Waddle, a former Sunderland fan, who last signed for the Black Cats in March 1997 at the age of 36 and three months,” writes Chris Charlton-Matthews. “He played seven games and was involved in every goal scored by Sunderland for the rest of the season, scoring a free kick in the last ever game at Roker Park. Sadly, it’s still not enough to keep us up, but it’s a privilege to see a master at work. ”
Richard Powell offers Paul Jones: “He was 36 years and eight months old when he signed an emergency loan agreement for Liverpool in January 2004. In fact, the Welsh keeper jumped at the chance when he received a call from Gérard Houllier. “It was just nonsense,” said Jones in 2020. “The chance to play for Liverpool – I don’t care if it’s just one game.” In the end, it was two – but he kept a clean sheet at Anfield in a 1-0 win over Aston Villa.
Two Manchester United keepers are worth mentioning. Tom Heaton made his team debut at the age of 35 in December 2021, having first played for the academy team at the age of 14. Lee Grant was also 35 when he made his United debut as United. representative, and made his first full final. in November 2019, “fulfilling the dream of youth” at 36 years and 10 months.
But wait – Jack Hart has even older field starters. “Teddy Sheringham signed for West Ham in 2004, aged 38 and three months.” The superb attack scored 21 Championship goals to help the Hammers return to the best flight. “To have the opportunity to play for my youth club, even though I was probably doing my best – I was very happy to do that,” he said.
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Continental trophies only
“Tammy Abraham has won the Champions League, Super Cup and Europa Conference League, but has no top home ticketitles, “ Rob Lawshaw notes. “Which player has the most continental titles without a home title?
“Abraham connects with Juan Mata (Champions League one, Europa League two), Dino Baggio (three Uefa Cups), and Coke (three Europa Leagues),” writes Chai from Atlanta. “Two players are taking this achievement another step. Spanish midfielder Vicente Iborra, part of Sevilla’s three consecutive Europa League matches from 2013-16, won the cup again with Villarreal. Also, Argentine midfielder Éver Banega won the Copa Libertadores with Boca Juniors before winning three Europa Leagues with Sevilla. However, neither player has yet won a home league. ”
However, if we are looking for players who have three wins different continental Top-tier homeless title trophies, we can only think of Steven Gerrard (Champions League, Uefa Cup, Super Cup) as a companion to Abraham’s feat. If we narrow it down to continental trophies and no domestic ones at all (FA Cup, League Cup, Coppa Italia etc) Abraham may be alone.
Last week, we added Nigel Spink to our list of Cup finals. Tim Hoult (and others) approached to point out that Aston Villa ‘s biggest night was the young warden’s night. second look for the club. “He started for Boxing Day for the first time in 1979 and scored two goals in victory against Brian Clough’s Nottingham Forest, then European champions.” Spink had to wait two and a half years for a second chance, in the 1982 European Cup final.
“Have a husband and wife ever been fired in the same game?” it surprised Steve Turner back in 2010.
In fact they are. Back in December 1999 Bristol Rovers faced Oxford United in the South West Women’s Combination League. Halfway through the game the Oxford player appeared to be handling the ball, but the referee was motionless. Mandy Gornicki-Bond’s lively man protested fiercely, and she was promptly shown a red card, despite insisting that her remarks were not directed at the officer.
The decision angered the Rovers manager, who just happened to be Mandy’s husband, Bill. He was angry because of the injustice he felt, he went to the park to confront the officer. Bill, a policeman and first class referee, later argued that he was not abusive, but also sent to the stands.
Can you help?
“Knowing their love for Watford, has Elton John’s song ever been played on Luton’s Kenilworth Road?” wonders Edward Jones.
“Is Gareth Bale of Real Madrid the most expensive substitute ever used in a European Cup final?” asks Albert from Vienna.
“Andreas Weimann scored his first senior goal in Austria against France last week at the age of 30,” noted Niall McVeigh. “Are there any players who were older when breaking their international duck?”
“Are Grimsby’s League Two backs the first team to be promoted by having the replays behind in every game?” asks Mike Slattery.